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The log from show #249.

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[23:04:27] »» [t]opic> [Forser] changes topic to [Script School’s Official Chatroom - Next Show : NOW - Music : Escandar - Happy Weekend]
[23:04:38] [@Forser] ^Lestat : just started ^Lestat
[23:05:01] [^Lestat] the ss feed is always seems quieter than other audio I play
[23:05:19] [SlickRick] Anyone how to stop pain from a dry socket from 10 years back?!!!!
[23:05:29] [CatsEye] argh Rick my sympathies, damn mon…
[23:05:31] »» [j]oin> [lcksmth] [~jirc@70-56-68-115.tukw.qwest.net]
[23:05:35] [CatsEye] hi lcksmth
[23:05:51] [jvastine] hey lcksmh
[23:06:08] [SlickRick] ty CatsEyes
[23:06:12] [lcksmth] hello
[23:06:13] [lcksmth]
[23:06:30] [CatsEye] wow, big spliff cyberwurx, mon…
[23:06:43] [jvastine] Have no idea SlickRick, but that’s gotta suck
[23:06:50] [@Forser] Hiya lcksmth
[23:06:53] [@Forser] Todays Lineup : http://www.scriptschool.com/news/ | http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/24k.php <- 24k stream 64k -> http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/56k.php | Todays Artist : http://www.garageband.com/artist/Escandar | Next week : Music recap planned for all prior artists | Call-ins : (800) 634-2718 Skype: TDavid
[23:07:02] [lcksmth] hi forser
[23:07:07] [^Lestat] damn - you are having pains from a dry socket from 10years ago?!?!
[23:07:07] [SlickRick] got a flap of skin over that hole where the tooth used to be and its tender
[23:07:27] [^Lestat] drink scotch!
[23:07:31] [CatsEye] I second that
[23:07:36] [SlickRick] booze dont help with pain
[23:07:45] [jvastine] well, keep air out f it
[23:07:51] [^Lestat] yea- i know. Just makes you drunk and inpain
[23:07:57] [jvastine] f=of
[23:07:58] [^Lestat] anything they can do for it?
[23:07:59] [CatsEye] anti-inflammatories and ice?
[23:08:06] [SlickRick] LOL oh holding my breath now jvastine lol
[23:08:21] [^Lestat] im just worried cos i had some wisdoms pulled about 5yrs ago
[23:08:35] [jvastine] no, they make a soft wax for that
[23:08:49] [SlickRick] I think the dentest fractured my jaw it locks some times
[23:08:55] [CatsEye] damn x 2…
[23:09:00] [PhoneMistress] Take a 3 day water fast, your natural HGH kicks in and everything is beautiful
[23:09:08] [^Lestat] LOLOL
[23:09:27] [jvastine] but, if you hold your breath long enough the pain will stop!
[23:09:33] [SlickRick] lol
[23:09:37] [SlickRick] good idea
[23:10:10] [CatsEye] Confusion! That would be…me.
[23:10:34] [@Forser] Todays Lineup : http://www.scriptschool.com/news/ | http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/24k.php <- 24k stream 64k -> http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/56k.php | Todays Artist : http://www.garageband.com/artist/Escandar | Next week : Music recap planned for all prior artists | Call-ins : (800) 634-2718 Skype: TDavid
[23:11:38] [weirdharold] being Lazy huh Tdavid
[23:11:44] [weirdharold] one simple plug
[23:14:02] [SlickRick] so when do we see the TD exercise home video
[23:14:21] [weirdharold] OMG don’t give him any ideas!
[23:14:28] [^Lestat] HAHA
[23:14:33] [jvastine] Hey TD that’s close to my bd too
[23:14:56] [SlickRick] TD in a leatard oohhhhhhhhh sexy
[23:15:01] [CatsEye] yeeek
[23:15:11] »» [j]oin> [JP_Go4livecash] [~2134124@118-2.119-70.tampabay.res.rr.com]
[23:15:14] [SlickRick] leotard
[23:15:15] [CatsEye] (nobody mention Alice Cooper! For the love of God, don’t!)
[23:15:22] [weirdharold] anothER Crown on the rocks!
[23:15:38] [JP_Go4livecash] hi guys
[23:15:43] [@Forser] Hiya JohnnyRS
[23:15:45] [@Forser] JP_Go4livecash even
[23:15:52] [jvastine] JP!!!!!!!
[23:16:10] [CatsEye] nope, I cannot.
[23:16:15] [JP_Go4livecash] i lost 15lbs since internext
[23:16:18] [jvastine] oh god, not richard simmons!
[23:16:30] [JP_Go4livecash] drinking herbal tea blend instead of coffee
[23:16:33] [JP_Go4livecash] in the morning
[23:17:02] [jvastine] I’m under weight - 6′3″ 145#
[23:17:09] [JP_Go4livecash] hey jvastine ! hey Forser
[23:17:14] [^Lestat] i just lost 18lbs this week past
[23:17:22] [JP_Go4livecash] 6′3″ 190lbs
[23:17:26] [@Forser] I haven’t eat candy for a long time.. drop 2.5 kg in two weeks.. new weigh in on monday
[23:17:33] [CatsEye] way to go Lestat!
[23:17:33] [^Lestat] I can lick my eyebrows
[23:17:37] [CatsEye] …
[23:17:37] [^Lestat] j/k
[23:17:41] [CatsEye] Hee
[23:17:43] [SlickRick] 5-11 225lbs
[23:17:47] [^Lestat] i did though.
[23:17:48] [JP_Go4livecash] i dont drink sodas not even sugar free ones
[23:17:52] [^Lestat] cos i was sick
[23:18:00] [^Lestat] and most of its cos i cut out sodies
[23:18:06] »» [j]oin> [Rowdy] [~rowdy@pool-71-113-180-150.frstil.dsl-w.verizon.net]
[23:18:10] [CatsEye] Rowdy!
[23:18:11] [Rowdy] Hiya all
[23:18:15] [Rowdy] brb
[23:18:17] [JP_Go4livecash] mostly water, iced tea or wine/beer (not every night)
[23:18:17] [jvastine] all soda is bad for you
[23:18:18] [SlickRick] but 30LBS is hair
[23:18:19] [^Lestat] there he is!
[23:18:19] [SlickRick] lol
[23:18:23] [JP_Go4livecash] soda kills
[23:18:29] [^Lestat] Rowdy: were your ears ringing?
[23:18:31] [CatsEye] 5′8″…
[23:18:31] [jvastine] het Rowdy welcome!
[23:18:37] [JP_Go4livecash] my body fat dropped from 25% to 23%
[23:18:48] [JP_Go4livecash] hi Rowdy
[23:18:50] [@Forser] Welcome Rowdy
[23:18:56] [CatsEye] cheese it…Rowdy’s here…
[23:18:57] [CatsEye]
[23:19:00] [^Lestat] hehe
[23:19:04] [JohnnyRS] Hi Rowdy!
[23:19:07] [@Forser] I drink water, Milk or juice (mostly water)
[23:19:10] [jvastine] damn, I can’t type today
[23:19:24] [JP_Go4livecash] milk is bad mmmmkay
[23:19:36] [jvastine] bud is naty
[23:19:43] [CatsEye] TD is foaming over.
[23:19:44] [JP_Go4livecash] only babies got the right enzymes to digest milk. for everyone else it bloats
[23:19:54] [JP_Go4livecash] i wouldnt call bud a beer
[23:19:54] [PhoneMistress] true
[23:19:58] [CatsEye] LOL JP
[23:20:19] [JP_Go4livecash] yesterday at sams club I seen those party kegs of coors
[23:20:21] [jvastine] JP, we need to get TD a good german stout!
[23:20:29] [JP_Go4livecash] i said to vivian now if that would be a party keg of beer
[23:20:37] [PhoneMistress] who funded THAT drink study? Coors?
[23:20:50] [CatsEye] Negra Modello.
[23:20:53] [CatsEye] mmmm.
[23:20:56] [^Lestat] I need to listen to this category stuff
[23:21:00] [SlickRick] Old english man
[23:21:03] [SlickRick] LOL
[23:21:11] [CatsEye] “meat” beer…bleah…
[23:21:20] [JP_Go4livecash] the only thing sold in masses over the usa (non microbrew) would probably be killians, sam adams
[23:21:23] [JP_Go4livecash] german drink it cold
[23:21:30] [JP_Go4livecash] stout and warm beer etc is an UK thing
[23:21:36] [SlickRick] dont they have rolling rock up there TD thas some good stuff
[23:21:43] [JP_Go4livecash] in south germany you drink doppel bock
[23:21:56] [jvastine] TD, try samuel adams cream stout or michelob black&tan
[23:22:17] [SlickRick] sam adams is not bad
[23:22:22] [jvastine] boch’s are good too
[23:22:23] [JP_Go4livecash] i was at world of beer store not too long in clearwater. bought like beers from belgium, germany, austria and some eastern european country
[23:22:52] [JP_Go4livecash] upto $5 a bottle but worth it. u drink one and feel better and better buzz than a 6pack of bud
[23:23:00] [SlickRick] www.pabstblueribbon.com/ LMAO
[23:23:11] [jvastine] most american beers are whimpy
[23:23:11] [^Lestat] toolbar?
[23:23:35] [JP_Go4livecash] google got its bar now for firefox. an official one. the inofficial I use since many months
[23:23:41] » JP_Go4livecash stays away from IE
[23:24:11] [@Forser] Todays Lineup : http://www.scriptschool.com/news/ | http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/24k.php <- 24k stream 64k -> http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/56k.php | Todays Artist : http://www.garageband.com/artist/Escandar | Next week : Music recap planned for all prior artists | Call-ins : (800) 634-2718 Skype: TDavid
[23:24:28] [JP_Go4livecash] TD a good beer taste at room temperatur
[23:24:37] [JP_Go4livecash] drink american beer at room temp and u puke
[23:24:39] [JP_Go4livecash] ur guts out
[23:24:51] [JP_Go4livecash] ice cold means u taste nothing and can pour it down
[23:24:53] [PhoneMistress] is there any spy ware on gremlins on the google/firefox bar
[23:24:56] [JP_Go4livecash] like ice water
[23:25:01] [JP_Go4livecash] with some alc and chemicals in
[23:25:07] [JP_Go4livecash] german beer is chemical free by law
[23:25:09] [@Forser] Kill GOOGLE
[23:25:11] [JP_Go4livecash] since 18xx
[23:25:28] [JP_Go4livecash] water, hop and malt
[23:25:31] [JP_Go4livecash] thats pretty much it
[23:26:22] [JP_Go4livecash] i just downloaded last week after the show of bittorrent
[23:26:25] [JP_Go4livecash] not installed yet
[23:26:55] [jvastine] does linspire have a live distro?
[23:27:17] [@Forser] I recommend Kanotix!
[23:27:40] [JP_Go4livecash] mandrake worked fine on my old laptop
[23:27:45] [jvastine] Knnopix
[23:27:47] [JP_Go4livecash] recognized all hardware
[23:27:53] [@Forser] Kanotix -> http://www.kanotix.com
[23:27:57] [JP_Go4livecash] on desktop i use knoppix for playing around and repairing windows
[23:28:10] [jvastine] mandriva live works great
[23:28:32] [@Forser] No, i ain’t doing shit for PSP .. since i refuse to sponsor sony since they STILL haven’t released the damn PSP in Europe :
[23:28:33] [@Forser] :/
[23:28:34] [Rowdy] back .. dealing with “tractor” failure here
[23:29:01] [SlickRick] that was at the AVI casinos down in Laughlin NV
[23:29:04] [JP_Go4livecash] there was also a penny collector record. collected 1.3mio pennies in 38 or so years
[23:29:08] [JP_Go4livecash] old record was 1.1 mio pennies
[23:29:11] [jvastine] yeah JP, knoppix is great for booting a whacked outwindows box
[23:29:11] [SlickRick] about 50 miles down the road from me
[23:29:54] [^Lestat] thats gay
[23:29:59] [^Lestat] yea i agree
[23:30:30] [JP_Go4livecash] oh it is
[23:30:33] [JP_Go4livecash] back from canada
[23:30:49] [JP_Go4livecash] even though that show was pretty much targetted to n00bs
[23:31:02] [JP_Go4livecash] but can only be better than whats on g4 tv right now
[23:31:08] [JP_Go4livecash] all those pea brains
[23:32:05] [CatsEye] yeah, they say students are “more engaged” with computers than books. That’s kinda sad, though understandable…
[23:32:20] [CatsEye] but the curriculum and courses will be a lot more up to date
[23:32:21] [SlickRick] Judgment Day on G4 at the moment LOL
[23:33:40] »» [q]uit> [weirdharold] [~jirc@cpe-24-162-87-26.jam.res.rr.com] [Quit: Leaving]
[23:33:41] [^Lestat] that sounds like a TRS80 game
[23:34:10] [^Lestat] JP you repair windows with knopix?
[23:34:20] [jvastine] Toshiba just released a 40G single platter perpendicular magnetic drive - 1.8″x1.8″x0.2″ & a 1T optical drive
[23:34:39] [^Lestat] ya - you can put mad amounts of music on those!
[23:34:49] [jvastine] Lestat, knoppix is great for that
[23:35:17] [jvastine] yeah, 20k+ songs
[23:35:17] [^Lestat] heres a movie for that toshiba drive: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/research/recording_head/pr/PerpendicularAnimation.html
[23:35:35] [^Lestat] I did not know that. Just what I need, another something to make me more dangerous
[23:36:16] [jvastine] imagine by the end of the year, you’ll have a flip phone with an 80G drive
[23:36:36] [CatsEye] I just want the damn thing to have an intuitive user interface…
[23:36:38] [CatsEye] don’t get me started.
[23:36:42] [CatsEye] Heh.
[23:37:14] [^Lestat] ohhh they busted some zotob virus hackers
[23:37:30] »» [j]oin> [FranciscoIV] [~fvalines@pool-141-156-174-16.esr.east.verizon.net]
[23:37:33] » ^Lestat started his very 1st blog this week
[23:37:33] »» [j]oin> [TDavid] [~happyhall@c-67-168-113-121.hsd1.wa.comcast.net]
[23:37:39] »» [n]ick> [TDavid] is now known as [TD-LIVE]
[23:37:41] [^Lestat] FranciscoIV!!
[23:37:49] [SlickRick] anyone see the last six feet under show on HBO the other day??
[23:37:50] [TD-LIVE] just realized I didn’t have this computer in the chat oops!
[23:37:51] [jvastine] hey FranciscoIV
[23:37:58] [FranciscoIV] hiya everyone!
[23:38:02] [^Lestat] *brb*
[23:38:02] [CatsEye] no SlickRick, heard it went out kicking…
[23:38:08] [CatsEye] hi there franciscoIV
[23:38:11] [SlickRick] it was asesome
[23:38:18] [SlickRick] awesome
[23:38:37] [@Forser] Todays Lineup : http://www.scriptschool.com/news/ | http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/24k.php <- 24k stream 64k -> http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/56k.php | Todays Artist : http://www.garageband.com/artist/Escandar | Next week : Music recap planned for all prior artists | Call-ins : (800) 634-2718 Skype: TDavid
[23:39:08] [CatsEye] ESS can dar
[23:39:20] [CatsEye] Alexander
[23:39:56] [@Forser] TD-LIVE : He is a bit low.. Raise the volume for the phone
[23:40:21] [TD-LIVE] workin on it
[23:40:28] [@Forser]
[23:45:07] [^Lestat] its like 800° and muggy, and DA PACKERS are gonna play
[23:51:57] [^Lestat] the hmm toolbar has a cool highlighter
[23:53:02] [FranciscoIV] ^lestat u can make your own toolbar now too!
[23:53:12] [^Lestat] hehe, no need just yet
[23:53:28] [^Lestat] not with 7 blog entries hehe
[23:53:58] [^Lestat] i gonna let this settle before I try to learn anymore. My head is spinning
[23:54:19] [FranciscoIV] like on the Exorcist?
[23:54:26] [^Lestat] dezactly
[23:55:09] [CatsEye] no pea soup, please…
[23:55:43] [jvastine] sound boards look complex, but they are really simple
[23:55:45] [^Lestat] the question is, what to write about on Monday?
[23:56:06] [jvastine] da packers loss
[23:56:12] [^Lestat] hahaha
[23:56:17] [jvastine] lol
[23:56:24] [^Lestat] then I would need to add a new category
[23:56:42] [FranciscoIV] would be a cool cat name da packers
[23:57:09] [^Lestat] strange, I still havent got spidered
[23:57:42] [jvastine] & you could create a gay version too…da $#!# packers! lol
[23:57:47] [^Lestat] HAHAHA
[23:57:51] [^Lestat] are they playing live??
[23:58:28] [SlickRick] I hear a little beatles melody
[23:59:53] [CatsEye] like the Jayhawks with piano
[00:00:01] [Rowdy] Doesn’t sound like it’s the “perfect” key for that particular singer
[00:00:14] [jvastine] SlickRick, they would be a good addition to that project
[00:00:27] [TD-LIVE] from a 1 (bad) to 10 (best) please rate Escandar
[00:00:37] [CatsEye] kinda ColdPlay-ish
[00:01:07] [TD-LIVE] listener votes will determine who is crowned the SS Battle of the Indie Bands 2005 champion
[00:01:19] [@Forser] Todays Lineup : http://www.scriptschool.com/news/ | http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/24k.php <- 24k stream 64k -> http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/56k.php | Todays Artist : http://www.garageband.com/artist/Escandar | Next week : Music recap planned for all prior artists | Call-ins : (800) 634-2718 Skype: TDavid
[00:01:25] [Rowdy] 7 here… I like it overall but some of the off pitches stand out a tad
[00:01:30] [@Forser] 5
[00:01:42] [SlickRick] a kind 3
[00:02:02] [CatsEye] yep, I like the melodic style and the instrumentals, I give it a 6
[00:02:18] [jvastine] 7…I agree with Rowdy, but they do have potential!
[00:02:24] [CatsEye] I think so to, jvastine
[00:02:35] [CatsEye] hell, sounds better than a lot of indie complaint rock solo guy stuff on the radio now
[00:02:49] [jvastine] true
[00:03:07] [JohnnyRS] 6.7
[00:03:39] [JP_Go4livecash] i just regged stopbegging.com and stopbugging.com
[00:03:46] [JP_Go4livecash] didnt think they would be available
[00:03:57] [TD-LIVE] somebody begging for all that warm german beer?
[00:03:58] [@Forser] JP_Go4livecash : Can i have 5 dollars? Please Please Please Please Please Please PLease?
[00:04:05] [JP_Go4livecash] its great for giving out email if someone asks for email
[00:04:23] [jvastine] were they live or was that just poor microphone placement?
[00:05:12] [jvastine] JP - the domain king!
[00:06:05] [JP_Go4livecash] i own domainkaiser.com
[00:06:07] [JP_Go4livecash] higher than a king
[00:07:05] [CatsEye] Sharebuilder rocks.
[00:07:46] [Odin] see ya guys
[00:07:49] [Odin] thanx for all
[00:07:56] »» [q]uit> [Odin] [~jirc@na-28-36.na.avantel.net.mx] [Quit: Leaving]
[00:07:57] [jvastine] later Odin
[00:09:00] [@Forser] Damn USA screwing me again Mohahahah
[00:09:41] [CatsEye] sorry, Forser, our country keeps screwing everybody…
[00:09:42] [CatsEye] sigh
[00:09:59] [JP_Go4livecash] real names are scary
[00:10:07] [@Forser] CatsEye
[00:10:08] [JP_Go4livecash] if you never use it online
[00:11:45] [CatsEye] IGT, Shufflemaster and Bally are good
[00:12:06] [JP_Go4livecash] raining and storming a bit now
[00:12:07] [JP_Go4livecash] http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm12/satelliteradar_large.html
[00:12:07] -ssblogbot@#scriptschool- D: http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm12/satelliteradar_large.html from JP_Go4livecash
[00:12:26] [^Lestat] 1 for 5, 2 for 10
[00:13:04] [@Forser] Todays Lineup : http://www.scriptschool.com/news/ | http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/24k.php <- 24k stream 64k -> http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/56k.php | Todays Artist : http://www.garageband.com/artist/Escandar | Next week : Music recap planned for all prior artists | Call-ins : (800) 634-2718 Skype: TDavid
[00:17:33] [^Lestat] I dont like toolbars
[00:17:38] [CatsEye] I’m not much of a fan of toolbars, really….
[00:17:43] [^Lestat] not enough canvas space to begin with
[00:17:50] [lcksmth] i dont use toolbars that much either
[00:18:14] [Rowdy] I have the google toolbar on one system in IE (but other browsers on that system as well)
[00:18:34] [SlickRick] I drag my BMs to a folder. my spyware program doesnt like book makrs
[00:18:36] [jvastine] I use a few toolbars
[00:18:38] [^Lestat] I like the google toolbar, for the popup blocker
[00:18:54] [@Forser] i don’t use toolbars since no need in Opera
[00:19:39] [PhoneMistress] I am testing the toolbar right now. It’s hard to get clients to download a sex bar
[00:22:34] [SlickRick] I had that tool bar and it fucked up my drop down menu made it a pain in the ass to review and submit
[00:25:12] [SlickRick] dont remember had it for about 3 months before I figured it was that tool bar messing my drop down
[00:25:12] [Rowdy] Got to get running here and take care of a few things.
[00:25:26] [Rowdy] Great show as always and I hope everyone has a great weekend!
[00:25:48] [Rowdy] Hope to see a few of you at least on the BAT thread this weekend at the ANS newbie board also
[00:25:58] »» [q]uit> [Rowdy] [~rowdy@pool-71-113-180-150.frstil.dsl-w.verizon.net]
[00:26:06] [jvastine] take care Rowdy!
[00:26:10] [^Lestat] nudieboard?
[00:26:59] [CatsEye] make bank on the BAT yeay!
[00:27:44] [FranciscoIV] back
[00:27:48] [FranciscoIV] miss me?
[00:27:55] [FranciscoIV] know i was gone?
[00:28:13] [^Lestat] HAHAHAHA nudieboard is avaiable
[00:28:20] [CatsEye] wb FranciscoIV
[00:28:32] [FranciscoIV] oh cool i’ll get it
[00:28:44] [^Lestat] you would
[00:29:01] [^Lestat] thats a $300 finder fee FranciscoIV
[00:29:30] [FranciscoIV] oh so u only owe me #350 now
[00:29:47] [SlickRick] I have a name for sale if anyone is interested. eliquaditionsale.com
[00:29:50] [^Lestat]

The 249th edition of Script School Radio will focus on how contextual analysis of content can help with categorization and tagging. Also:

- Listen to 2 hours of tech show through IE or Firefox browser
- Google Talk released, Gmail says no more invites … as long as you have a mobile phone # in the US
- Skype announces SkypeWeb and SkypeNet … is coming soon
- O’Reilly getting flamed over ads preying upon their Google PR
- Linspire installation adventures and report
- Reaching 1,000 stumbles
- Yahoo Toolbar gets better by adding Y!Q DemoBar functions for highlighting text and dump to search
- Sony PSP firmware 2.0 available, complete with web browser, and already a hack for homebrew is out
- Twilight Zone slot pays nearly $3 million, sets record
- Atlanta Journal Constitution makes it even harder to register for their news, thanks to BugMeNot
- generate your own magazine covers
- Call For Help coming back to US starting Mon Aug 29
- Buying and using a Tablet PC for the right reasons
- Skypers can call toll free numbers via SkypeOut for free in France, Poland, UK and USA — this means listeners outside USA/Canada can now call Script School radio live for free!
- Mac segment: Arizona school gives iBooks to each student instead of textbooks

The 249th two hour of tech radio show starts at Script School 2pm PST / 5pm EST / 10pm GMT and your attendence and opinion is welcome and encouraged:
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## Hour #2: — Mainstream “Safe for work” –
(via webmastercookbook.com — LIVE commercial free, no carbs education) show #49 — starts at 3:30pm PST ###
A reality-based family-friendly webmaster e-learning show. Follow along as a Jowl learns webmastering and specifically how to create his very first website, step-by-step.

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