The 253rd edition of Script School Radio will continue the focus on recapping the SS Battle of the Indie Bands 2005 artists to date. Also:
- Drama ensues over OPML spec
- Does any legitimate, free PHP/MySQL hosting exist?
- Yahoo releases another niche browser and API: Y! Site Explorer
- XM, Sirius or neither?
- Whedon’s Serenity flying in theaters everywhere
- Cold Stone Creamery rocks!
- 500,000+ people subscribed to watch TV on their cell phones
- Rollyo part of a new breed of API mash-ups
- Annoying Microsoft video ads in Zinio appearing, auto-play enabled by default
- Google personalize adds “remove result” feature
- TiVO starts $150 early termination fee for new customers with rebates
- Warner Music wants to play hardball with iTunes over 2006 song pricing
- MusicGiants offers up to 1100k lossless files starting at $1.29 per track
- Internet advertising up 28% compared to first half of 2004
- Google removes the index count, says they are “more comprehensive”
- MSN flirting with Adwords-like program … in Singapore and France first, US to follow in October
- Skypers can call toll free numbers via SkypeOut for free in France, Poland, UK and USA — this means listeners outside USA/Canada can now call Script School radio live for free!
- Mac segment: Mac OS X update includes tabbed IM, Safari updates and more
The 253rd two hour of tech radio show starts at Script School 2pm PST / 5pm EST / 10pm GMT and your attendence and opinion is welcome and encouraged:
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## Hour #2: — Mainstream “Safe for work” –
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A reality-based family-friendly webmaster e-learning show. Follow along as a Jowl learns webmastering and specifically how to create his very first website, step-by-step.
Drinks (cool stuff like RIAA-free music, free scripts, affiliate programs, websites, and more):
- PHP.net and php-scripts blog resource
Appetizers (hungry for knowledge, this will get you started)
- Spawn and Jowl learn write their first PHP script
Main Course (the meat and potatoes of the show)
- PHP script basic structure
Dessert (fun and fat-free stuff)
- assigning the week #1 to-do assignment
The Check (what did we learn today)
- checking Spawn and Jowl’s knowledge
90 minutes catering to adult webmasters and 30 minutes for mainstream webmasters every Friday … it’s the two hours of tech radio show starting at scriptschool.com
The log from show #252.
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[23:11:24] »» [t]opic> [Forser] changes topic to [Script School’s Official Chatroom - Next Show : NOW - Artist : ? - Guest : Who knows?]
[23:11:52] [jvastine] yeah Rowdy, they say the stuff is headed this way too
[23:11:56] »» [j]oin> [PK6] [jirc@CPE00508d303f13-CM00080d35e244.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com]
[23:12:06] [Rowdy] hi PK6
[23:12:08] [jvastine] hi PK6
[23:12:09] [PK6] HI everyone
[23:12:18] [^Lestat] hi
[23:12:29] [Rowdy] hi ^Lestat
[23:13:24] [PK6] lol -
[23:13:31] » ^Lestat wavs to everyone
[23:14:24] [@Forser] *listening to the radio through my pocketpc on the cradle* .. lol
[23:14:38] [PK6] nice
[23:14:57] [^Lestat] [00:02:18][jvastine]16 hot dogs..I vote a 7
[23:15:16] [^Lestat] or http://www.timslan.com/hotdogs.jpg
[23:15:17] [^Lestat] ;p
[23:16:11] [@Forser] Scriptschool Radio : http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/24k.php <- 24k stream 64k -> http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/56k.php | Todays Artist : ? | Todays Guest : Who knows ? | Call-in : Skype : TDavid / GoogleTalk : TDavid / (800) 634-2718 | Find earlier Logs from shows at http://www.scriptschool.com/news
[23:16:52] »» [j]oin> [kara] [~jirc@d18-230.rb.gh.centurytel.net]
[23:16:57] [Rowdy] hi kara
[23:16:59] [@Forser] Hey Kara
[23:17:04] [@Forser] Oh Hi Pk6 and Rowdy
[23:17:09] [jvastine] hello kara
[23:17:10] [kara] hi Rowdy, Forser
[23:17:16] [kara] hey jvastine
[23:17:17] [Rowdy] hi Forser
[23:17:19] [@Forser] TD-LIVE : They have fixed that what i know..
[23:17:25] [PK6] good afternoon
[23:17:47] [@Forser] *Doesn’t have Walmart* 
[23:17:58] [PK6] the return line is the busiest section of walmart
[23:18:05] [@Forser]
[23:19:33] [@Forser] TD-LIVE : http://www.zerodollarhomepage.com/ <-
[23:21:06] [Rowdy] sure enough TDavid
[23:21:07] [@Forser] TD-LIVE : don’t they have free wifi in San Franscisco?
[23:21:11] [Rowdy] you called that one
[23:22:17] [jvastine] Forser, they are trying
[23:22:25] [PK6] free wifi here at my place
[23:22:38] [@Forser] jvastine : okey, i heard that they had started in san frans.. but but
[23:23:03] [@Forser] Scriptschool Radio : http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/24k.php <- 24k stream 64k -> http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/56k.php | Todays Artist : ? | Todays Guest : Who knows ? | Call-in : Skype : TDavid / GoogleTalk : TDavid / (800) 634-2718 | Find earlier Logs from shows at http://www.scriptschool.com/news | Get the best browser in the world : http://www.opera.no
[23:23:06] [PK6] lol TD
[23:23:31] [jvastine] Forser, Ithink they have started, but don’t cover the entire city yet
[23:23:39] [@Forser] jvastine : oki
[23:23:42] »» [j]oin> [ROVER] [~noy@kwis-clarion-118.kalnet.com]
[23:23:47] [@Forser] Welcome ROVER
[23:23:49] [Rowdy] hi ROVER
[23:23:54] [jvastine] PK6, where are you at?
[23:23:55] [^Lestat] I sure hope they got WiFi in missippi
[23:23:59] [ROVER] hi everyone
[23:24:01] [jvastine] hi Rover
[23:25:29] [PK6] NB Canada
[23:26:06] [jvastine] cool
[23:26:17] [PK6] yeah 5 degrees
[23:26:22] [PK6] last night
[23:26:48] [PK6] 40F
[23:26:51] [jvastine] lol…no, I meant cool as in neat or great
[23:26:56] [@Forser] lol
[23:27:07] [PK6] ; )
[23:28:25] »» [j]oin> [CatsEye] [~jirc@71.39.91.93]
[23:28:31] [Rowdy] hi CatsEye
[23:28:39] [CatsEye] Hi there
[23:28:55] [PK6] hi CatsEye good day
[23:29:16] [ROVER] hi catseye
[23:29:27] [jvastine] Welcome CatsEye, how are youtoday?
[23:29:30] [@Forser] Yo CatsEye
[23:29:49] [CatsEye] doing well. it’s casual cat Friday here at work
[23:29:58] [CatsEye] brought “fuckles” into the office today…heh
[23:30:42] [Rowdy] our cats turn into something from hell itself when it comes to a car ride … lol
[23:31:05] [PK6] lol
[23:31:20] [jvastine] oh, I guess that fuckles is your cat
[23:31:29] [CatsEye] yep
[23:31:46] [Rowdy] one of them just continually growls… a nasty growl at that. Will draw interesting looks from other frivers if the windows are down
[23:31:56] [ROVER] no cats around here
[23:31:57] [Rowdy] drivers that is
[23:32:23] [CatsEye] this one just mews plaintively. I’ve ridden with ones that yowl without ever inhaling; pretty amazing
[23:32:25] [@Forser] Rowdy : hehe..
[23:32:48] [@Forser] anyone here got any webstream from newssource about rita? ..
[23:33:21] [Rowdy] not I
[23:33:28] [CatsEye] nope
[23:33:30] [ROVER] google news ???
[23:33:56] [@Forser] ROVER : videostream
[23:34:25] [ROVER] then try weather channel
[23:34:40] [@Forser] ROVER : do the send on the net?
[23:35:27] [CatsEye] nice drum machine sound by Mattel
[23:36:17] [CatsEye] heh
[23:36:28] »» [q]uit> [ROVER] [~noy@kwis-clarion-118.kalnet.com] [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[23:37:40] [CatsEye] nicely angsty
[23:38:33] »» [j]oin> [PhoneMistress] [~jirc@pool-141-156-212-129.res.east.verizon.net]
[23:38:39] [Rowdy] hi PhoneMistress
[23:38:56] »» [j]oin> [ROVER] [~noy@kwis-clarion-118.kalnet.com]
[23:39:05] [@Forser] TD-LIVE : Hmm, only google? .. i can select different searches and i have the latest..
[23:39:07] [jvastine] wb Rover
[23:39:10] [ROVER] here is some info http://news.google.com/news?q=Hurricane+Rita
[23:39:25] [jvastine] Welcome PhoneMistress
[23:39:25] [TD-LIVE] not *only* google, they are the default one, forser
[23:39:46] [@Forser] hmm that has always been default what i know
[23:39:55] [CatsEye] oh great, Hurricane Rita’s rains already breached two of New Orlean’s battered levees 
[23:40:42] [CatsEye] did this show start at 2?
[23:41:05] [Rowdy] it’s been on 40 minutes or so
[23:41:08] [@Forser] CatsEye : show already running
[23:41:12] [@Forser] Scriptschool Radio : http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/24k.php <- 24k stream 64k -> http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/56k.php | Todays Artist : ? | Todays Guest : Who knows ? | Call-in : Skype : TDavid / GoogleTalk : TDavid / (800) 634-2718 | Find earlier Logs from shows at http://www.scriptschool.com/news | Get the best browser in the world : http://www.opera.no
[23:41:28] [^Lestat] HAHAHA - nice opera plug Forser
[23:41:36] [@Forser] ^Lestat
[23:42:00] [^Lestat] [00:02:18][jvastine]16 hot dogs..I vote a 7
[23:42:28] [@Forser]
[23:42:34] [jvastine] TD, that dependsupon the type of cassette & how it is stored
[23:43:06] [PK6] storage is key 4 sure
[23:43:53] [PK6] in the trunk of a Datsun …not long
[23:43:56] [TD-LIVE] <^Lestat> [00:02:18][jvastine]16 hot dogs..I vote a 7
[23:44:58] [ROVER] haven’t changed much TD ?? he-he
[23:46:50] [jvastine] the number was < 10
[23:47:17] [@Forser]
[23:47:23] [jvastine] the rating system was 1 - 10
[23:47:58] [PK6] lol -
[23:48:01] [TD-LIVE] <^Lestat> [00:02:18][jvastine]6 hot dogs..I vote a 7
[23:48:06] [TD-LIVE] how about that?
[23:48:08] [^Lestat] [00:02:18][jvastine]ok i hate 2 hot dogs but i vote 7
[23:48:50] [^Lestat] then reject the vote, we need to have voter registration
[23:48:58] » jvastine doesn’t eat hot dogs
[23:48:58] [SlickRick] 42
[23:49:20] » ^Lestat DEMANDs A RECOUNT!!!
[23:49:24] [^Lestat] hehehe
[23:49:51] [JohnnyRS] if more than 1 number then get first number after word:vote?
[23:50:12] [^Lestat] but sometimes we dont use the word “vote”
[23:50:15] [@Forser] JohnnyRS : not all say vote / grade or such..
[23:50:37] [TD-LIVE] yup, sometimes the word vote isn’
[23:50:40] [TD-LIVE] er, isn’t there
[23:50:48] [TD-LIVE] so maybe it’s 6, i vote 7
[23:50:59] [TD-LIVE] or 6, and no make it 7
[23:51:13] [TD-LIVE] how to we make sure the “7″ is chosen over the 6?
[23:52:08] [PK6] via program or human?
[23:52:12] [jvastine] the easy way is kick it to a text file for you to decipher
[23:54:09] [PK6] need a rule of some kind - for code to count must be format [ vote 7]
[23:54:38] [@Forser] PK6 : voting has already been done for like the last 20 shows..
[23:55:09] [PK6] oh so this is after the fact
[23:55:24] [@Forser] yes..
[23:55:51] [@Forser] been sorting out the voting from logs.. talk about the listeners have voted funny
[23:56:18] [PK6] ffs - guess you will all know better next time then huh
[23:56:31] [@Forser] *points on TD-LIVE*
[23:56:33] [@Forser] 
[23:57:32] [PK6] so the poll is a little inaccurate then
[23:58:14] [PK6] oh
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[23:59:06] [jvastine] unless the band was 16 hotdogs
[23:59:11] [^Lestat] my point was that the number COULD get added within some context
[23:59:20] [^Lestat] LOL jva
[23:59:29] [@Forser]
Session Time: Sat Sep 24 00:00:00 2005
[00:00:03] [@Forser] hardcore deep
[00:00:08] [^Lestat] 2 days ago I voted a 6
[00:00:16] [SlickRick] the answer is 4 helpings of nochos.
[00:00:16] [PK6] lol
[00:00:21] [PK6] tff
[00:00:22] [^Lestat] HAHAHAHA SlickRick
[00:00:27] [^Lestat] <– fell off chair
[00:00:38] [jvastine] ok,how about 5 strange guys
[00:00:46] [TD-LIVE] 1) control the data flow as much as possible
[00:00:52] [TD-LIVE] because if you don’t you have … chaos
[00:01:00] [@Forser] jvastine : we still know the name of the band when voting
[00:01:04] [jvastine] true
[00:01:11] [PK6] can you only count last entry with a number between 1-10
[00:01:20] [SlickRick] damn it now I am hungry
[00:01:23] [^Lestat] hahahaha
[00:01:49] [@Forser] Hell yeah..
[00:02:13] [@Forser] Next damn time I AM going to make sure there is a voting system..
[00:02:18] [jvastine] with lisp
[00:02:26] [^Lestat] make a bot that responds to commands such as “vote”
[00:02:45] [^Lestat] then it would log your nickname and vote
[00:02:45] [@Forser] ^Lestat : feel free
[00:02:50] [^Lestat] and deny second votes
[00:03:14] [PK6] I would take only last entries with a digit that fits criteria null the rest
[00:03:44] [^Lestat] common sense: thats why i struggle ;p
[00:04:34] [jvastine] common sense - TD has not seen a lot of legacy programs
[00:04:37] [jvastine] lol
[00:04:44] [@Forser] Common Sense : DOn’T USE PHP
[00:05:01] [^Lestat] ok im off to new orleans area tomorrow morning!
[00:05:03] [PK6] lol
[00:05:11] [^Lestat] see you guys in 2 weeks(or 6 hotdogs)
[00:05:12] [@Forser] ^Lestat : take a boat with yeah..
[00:05:20] [@Forser] ^Lestat : enjoy
[00:05:29] [^Lestat] l8rz
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[00:06:46] [PK6] so program numerous words that indicate change of human mind / last entry with digit that fits criteria
[00:06:59] [@Forser] One PHP beer, two PHP beers, three PHP beers..
[00:07:08] [PK6] lol
[00:07:22] [@Forser] and not BEARS
[00:07:28] [@Forser] GO FALCONS
[00:08:13] [@Forser] Scriptschool Radio : http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/24k.php <- 24k stream 64k -> http://www.scriptschool.com/radio/56k.php | Todays Artist : ? | Todays Guest : Who knows ? | Call-in : Skype : TDavid / GoogleTalk : TDavid / (800) 634-2718 | Find earlier Logs from shows at http://www.scriptschool.com/news | Get the best browser in the world : http://www.opera.no
[00:08:39] [jvastine] top down programming
[00:08:48] [@Forser] jvastine : spaghetti?
[00:09:36] [@Forser] My next project that i am currently on will be spaghetti
[00:09:53] [SlickRick] HEY TD this weeks football thing is current. it seems like the same teams that played last week. or am I wrong.
[00:10:02] [jvastine] I’ve seen a lot of legacy programs with 100k+ lines of spaghetti code
[00:10:36] [PK6] if} change,no,meant,decide etc, between 1+10 then <action>}
[00:10:59] [SlickRick] ok ty ill look again
[00:11:41] [jvastine] logic works the sae
[00:11:49] [jvastine] sae=same
[00:11:52] [PK6] I dont know any php so…….
[00:12:07] [PK6] I can do that
[00:12:13] [jvastine] so you’ll learn PK6
[00:12:30] [jvastine] yes I did
[00:12:46] [PK6] im hoping so
[00:13:00] [jvastine] great!
[00:13:54] [PK6] might be easie to pay TD to set it up for me -lol
[00:13:59] [PK6] **easier
[00:14:57] [jvastine] perhaps, but more fulfilling to do it yourself
[00:15:26] [jvastine] we never cease learning
[00:15:31] [@Forser] *BOOM*
[00:15:42] [PK6] yeah i like doing and learning
[00:16:28] [SlickRick] I learned to never stick a bobby pen in an eletric socket only did that once to learn not to do it again
[00:16:48] [PK6] lol
[00:17:21] [@Forser] SlickRick : WTF
[00:17:26] [SlickRick] lol
[00:17:37] [jvastine] curiosity
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[00:17:39] [SlickRick] I was 6 years old
[00:18:16] [jvastine] 6? SlickRick was a bit slow
[00:18:20] [@Forser] SlickRick : Lucky that you guys only got like 120 volt or whatever it is .. I was stupid enough to use a wirecutter (lucky with a plastic shell around the handle) and cut a 220 volt cable in a stereo .. My friend had fun
[00:18:30] [CatsEye] hey, I just learned that three years ago
[00:18:59] [SlickRick] ya I was slow I suppose
[00:19:09] [jvastine] Forser, it’s not the voltage that kills you, it’s the amperage
[00:19:16] [SlickRick] ya
[00:19:17] [@Forser] jvastine : Live wire in the socket
[00:19:50] [@Forser] jvastine : Big flash, i jumped and almost hit my head in the roof and my cousin was lying on the floor laughing his ass off..
[00:20:09] [PK6] sounds excellent ………..should I not be getting an erection right now
[00:20:10] [jvastine] that’s easy to do, just be sure to only touch one wire at a time
[00:20:16] [SlickRick] oh ive been zapped by 220 3 phase not a fun feeling
[00:20:20] [CatsEye] don’t touch the power line…
[00:20:30] [CatsEye] I do
[00:20:33] [PK6] me
[00:20:46] [jvastine] yes, I use Photoshop CS
[00:20:54] [JohnnyRS] I use paint shop pro
[00:21:14] [SlickRick] ya me too I have paint shop pro as well
[00:21:21] [@Forser] jvastine : hehe.. I cut a livewire.. that is two cables so .. got a nice mark in the cuter..
[00:21:41] [TD-LIVE] here is the tip: http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20050916/2374/
[00:21:41] [jvastine] ouch!
[00:21:56] [Rowdy] Occasionally
[00:22:02] [@Forser] jvastine : since then, i triple check that cables are UNPLUGGED
[00:22:07] [CatsEye] the tip?
[00:22:12] [PK6] lol
[00:22:19] [@Forser] CatsEye : Photoshop tip
[00:22:25] [CatsEye] yes. waiting.
[00:22:27] [CatsEye]
[00:22:36] [jvastine] good idea Forser
[00:22:54] [CatsEye] save without preview.
[00:22:58] [@Forser] jvastine : hehehe.. i am a bit spooked by that stuff really
[00:23:11] [CatsEye] I figure electricity’s the one thing in your house that can REALLY kill you.
[00:23:22] [PK6] or spouse
[00:23:25] [@Forser] CatsEye : you sure? you don’t have a gun in the house?
[00:23:44] [CatsEye] oh. damn.
[00:24:05] [@Forser] i don’t have it.. if i did then i would have the cops knocking on the door
[00:24:12] [jvastine] yeah, I get 2-3mb images down to about 300k easily
[00:24:23] [CatsEye] well, I mean working on stuff. plumbing, drywall, tile work, etc fine. Electricity still scares me.
[00:24:38] [@Forser] CatsEye : true..
[00:24:42] [SlickRick] turn the braker off in the future
[00:24:53] [jvastine] removing the preview should help a lot more
[00:25:05] [@Forser] SlickRick : braker?
[00:25:12] [SlickRick] braker box
[00:25:19] [@Forser] ah..
[00:25:41] [CatsEye] are you breaking the circuit, or applying the brakes to a circuit?
[00:25:42] [SlickRick] no power coming no shock
[00:25:43] [jvastine] Forser, remove the fuse
[00:25:53] [@Forser] jvastine : LOLLLL
[00:26:12] [Rowdy] 30-40k usually
[00:26:31] [@Forser] Fun is that our breakerbox is weird.. Like one fuse for all of the appartment, not like normal breakerbox else..
[00:26:41] [@Forser] TD-LIVE : Don’t play WOW.. NEVER
[00:26:49] [SlickRick] and make sure hands arent wet or wear gloves lol
[00:26:58] [@Forser] SlickRick : lol
[00:27:34] [@Forser] TD-LIVE : It is expensive crap
[00:27:43] [CatsEye] thanks for the script school show TD, gotta run, take care all
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[00:27:59] [TD-LIVE] have you seen meebo? http://www.meebo.com/
[00:29:19] [@Forser] OPera?
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[00:29:34] [TD-LIVE] this the million dollar homepage: http://www.milliondollarhomepage.com/
[00:30:03] [@Forser] TD-LIVE : http://www.zerodollarhomepage.com/
[00:30:11] [Rowdy] I need to get heading here as well. Thanks for the chat and I’ll check back for the podcast
[00:30:25] [Rowdy] Have a great weekend all!
[00:30:30] [@Forser] Take care Rowdy
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[00:31:48] [SlickRick] later all have a grand weekend
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